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Bobby2 · Apr 20, 2009, 11:48 PM // 23:48

All those people suggesting buffs: figure they'd go well on a Blossom spammer, too?

@ Igor: Morgahn spreads the love. Mainly for Hayda and for any adren junkie brave enough to join my team. FGJ! = selfish.

awry · Apr 21, 2009, 12:12 AM // 00:12

I use a variant of that build and essentially came up with it because I felt lazy and didn't care about spamming attacks. 1-2-3 is too much work so i just c space, spam sy and maintain enchants. Lets me do other things while i go into automode with gw.

Axel Zinfandel · Apr 21, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

...did you just say that 1-2-3 is too much work?

...This, people, is why GW has gotten stupidly easy

Paul Dawg · Apr 21, 2009, 03:40 AM // 03:40

If I'm hero-henching, I can't give [pain inverter] to anyone else.

Wow, people really don't read very carefully.

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

On builds like this, reactive crap such as [Pain Inverter] is wasteful. If you really want it, give it to someone else.

snaek · Apr 21, 2009, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by bobby2

All those people suggesting buffs: figure they'd go well on a Blossom spammer, too?

sure, but [[locust's fury] will trigger them faster/more often.

riktw · Apr 21, 2009, 06:18 AM // 06:18

you attack every 0.59 seconds
crit strikes are no problem you will get them often.
blocking is annoing, but wild blow helps a lot, and with dark fury you will have your adrenaline back in about 2 sec.
blindness is really anoing to, but dismiss condition or other anti condition skills on your orders hero help a lot.
and well, after finishing proph with moebius it became a bit boring and i want something else.

Bobby2 · Apr 21, 2009, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by snaek

sure, but [[locust's fury] will trigger them faster/more often.

I already have a minion army doing pinpricks.

Now Diabolical · Apr 21, 2009, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by snaek

sure, but [[locust's fury] will trigger them faster/more often.

That's not really the Point.

The Point is, that you don't suffer from any Block.

Hatchet Child · Apr 21, 2009, 09:18 AM // 09:18

[Whirlwind attack]>[Pain inverter]

if you have groups around you whirlwind is a winner with Vamp Daggers and OoV

snaek · Apr 21, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by now diabolical

That's not really the Point.

The Point is, that you don't suffer from any Block.

in ms/db, your most important skill, [[death blossom] can be blocked.

don't forget that [dodge this] can be activated with every attack, once you get 1-hit in.

_Nihilist_ · Apr 21, 2009, 08:21 PM // 20:21

^
Such a wonderful skill for any Physical in PvE. Am I correct in saying that the bonus damage would only apply to the target, not to the AoE splash? If not, imba!

Unreal Havoc · Apr 21, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

^
Such a wonderful skill for any Physical in PvE. Am I correct in saying that the bonus damage would only apply to the target, not to the AoE splash? If not, imba!

It only affects the first hit of a double strike and doesn't apply to the AoE. I just tested it on Isle of the Nameless.

Xenomortis · Apr 21, 2009, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

If I'm hero-henching, I can't give [pain inverter] to anyone else.

Wow, people really don't read very carefully.

Then don't take it.

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Originally Posted by Now Diabolical

That's not really the Point.

The Point is, that you don't suffer from any Block.

Death Blossom can be blocked. Moebius Strike can be blocked.
[Rigor Mortis] is a life saver against blocking enemies (give it to a hero). Or, take a stance removal, as a lot of blocking comes in the form of stances.

Axel Zinfandel · Apr 22, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

It only affects the first hit of a double strike and doesn't apply to the AoE. I just tested it on Isle of the Nameless.

Since double strikes are technically two different attacks, couldn't you activate it before the second hit in the double strike lands?

@Xenomortis Yeah, you're already /W so take Wild Blow. it's an awesome skill!

Unreal Havoc · Apr 22, 2009, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Since double strikes are technically two different attacks, couldn't you activate it before the second hit in the double strike lands?

Didn't try it like that, but I would assume so seems it's attacks not attack skills.

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@Xenomortis Yeah, you're already /W so take Wild Blow. it's an awesome skill!

I'd go with Wild Blow. If your team is so bad they cant manage without Save Yourselves for all of 3-4 seconds while you rebuild adrenaline they should uninstall.

Paul Dawg · Apr 22, 2009, 05:06 AM // 05:06

OK, try vanqing or doing HM dungeons with [whirlwind attack] and fail when enemy casters fry you. Then try it with [pain inverter] and win when they fry themselves instead.

Adorable that people are sleeping on [pain inverter]. Next to ["save yourselves!" (luxon)], it's probably the single best hero-henching skill in the whole game.

And anyway...the whole question is completely irrelevant to the thread. If you don't like [pain inverter], don't bring it. End of story.

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Originally Posted by Hatchet Child

[Whirlwind attack]>[Pain inverter]

if you have groups around you whirlwind is a winner with Vamp Daggers and OoV

Axel Zinfandel · Apr 22, 2009, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Argh, stop arguing about it, their both good in their own respect. Physical characters typically don't and shouldn't use Pain inverter in general PvE use. Sure, Pain inverter = certain death, but stuff blows up far too often, not to mention 10 energy is a lot for most physicals to be dealing with.

It also generally works against the goal and 'feel' (so to say)l of whatever a physical may be running, whereas Whirlwind works WITH physical builds.

It is an undeniably good skill though, especially with Assassin's Promise, and you should definitely bring it when dealing with any bosses that deal AoE

Now Diabolical · Apr 22, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Well, I never sad that DB/MS can't be blocked.

With Locust's you don't really suffer, because there is no recharge for your attacks. That's qwhat i meant to say.

riktw · Apr 22, 2009, 10:12 AM // 10:12

pain inverter is good stuff yeah, and the 10 energy is not a big problem for an locust sin.
you dont have attack skills you need to pay for.
but asuran scan is nice to, just tried it.
only downside is that in HM armor can be an problem.
the +** damage from attack skills is armor ignoring but your O_O fast attacks are not.
i use vampiric daggers for this build now, dont need zealous for energy, and vampiric adds an nice +3 damage cloud.

Hatchet Child · Apr 22, 2009, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

OK, try vanqing or doing HM dungeons with [whirlwind attack] and fail when enemy casters fry you. Then try it with [pain inverter] and win when they fry themselves instead.

Adorable that people are sleeping on [pain inverter]. Next to ["save yourselves!" (luxon)], it's probably the single best hero-henching skill in the whole game.

And anyway...the whole question is completely irrelevant to the thread. If you don't like [pain inverter], don't bring it. End of story.

Reactive hexing sucks.

The only way your gonna get fried is if you stand there [Whirlwind attack] is a better option for you if your melee.

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Originally Posted by riktw

only downside is that in HM armor can be an problem.

You don't need to worry about it that much if your running [Order of the [email protected]] and Using Vamp daggers Should be stealing 20hp .66 of a second.